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augieboo
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Post by augieboo » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:01 am

ipab wrote:...MSI installers are very big, and they take forever to load up, the point is you are trading off a huge installer for a certification.
MSI installers are not that big, in fact I have created many installations smaller than 100 - 150K. Many third party MSI generators (eg Installshield), bundle all application's prerequisites plus many merge modules into MSI package thus increasing its size. Not that I like MSI, but using a single, OS provided installation service, is much better approach in terms of quality and professionalism.

Personally speaking, certifications like "Windows Logo" or "certified installer" makes no difference. Unfortunately many corp IT people don't agree with that...

slake
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Post by slake » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:10 am

i see your point.

as for the MSI installers, have you used another external scripting engine to make the msi installers? I have never created msi installers, want to take a crack at it :).

to be honest im not a fan of the msi installers since most of them take a long time to load up and im referring to the ones made my microsoft like the ones for msn messenger or even one of their more latest apps, the student graphing calculator.

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Bigger vs smaller

Post by jazzbodepew » Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:48 pm

Hari and Team
I think we had this discussion about size and feature creep on several occassions before..
Have you ever considered two versions of Ace..
One ;
A stripped down version with the basic cleaning and tools..
Perhaps this one could be "FREE FOR PERSONAL USE"....
On 1 households' computers?
Of course encouraging a donation for future development..
A social forum linked to the technical forum for support..
Customize the Help files to promote the
Full-featured" scriptable-pull out all the stops- Give Mr Norton whiplash as the net worthy
"Ace total-care system-management-Dupe findin-setup-recovery-backup-virus scanning-spyware shootin-rootin tootin full package system life extension-global search and development UTILITIES"...

Modular of course so the plugin modules could be sold seperately or as a set of customized packages..
Like add on just the backup and spyware tools to the "Free for personal use veraion..
For a modest fee and subscription cost --Natch!

Theory being : The more computers Ace keeps in fine feather (running smooth) the more users will want ALL the Ace Modules...

:shock: "COFFEE!"
JAZZ.........AKA...............DenB..........................
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***JAZZ OO SAYS***
ACE----oooO--(_)---Oooo---EXCELS

slake
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Post by slake » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:17 am

any other updates hari?

englishrex
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Post by englishrex » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:32 pm

IMHO, the current group of components within AU is just right. It has all of the things I want to clean up the computer (registry and temp files).

I generally stay away from packages that throw in superfluous utilities that are either meaningless or duplicates what Windows already provides. (I like that AU does its optional scheduling through Windows task scheduler, instead of introducing a duplicate scheduler like Norton does.)

One easy test of the cleanness of a package is:
1) How small is the download installer.
2) Once installed, are there any StartupMgr threads or Registry processes lurking around.

The most nighmarish package I have ever used was Norton's. Huge, and hooks everywhere. Boy does that package ever slow down a computer, and just try uninstalling it without leaving any reminants.

For me, AU is a textbook example of clean and efficient programming. This gives a user like me confidence that it will probably do no harm to an otherwise scary task of tweaking one's registry.

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